Read-me Ultrapack UP3.0 sorti ... c'est pour bientôt !!!!

Voici le read-me :

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UP 3.0 RC ReadMe.

Flyables


The Jet Era:
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14158.0.html

F-86A-5 Sabre, 1949
F-86E-10 Sabre, 1952
F-86F-25 Sabre, 1953
F-86F-25 Sabre (6-3 Wing), 1953
F-86F-30 Sabre, 1953
F-86F-40 Sabre, 1954
F-86K Sabre Dog, 1955
CA-27 Sabre Mk31, 1954CA-27 Sabre Mk32, 1955
FJ-3M Fury, 1956
MiG-15(bis), 1950
MiG-15(bis), 195
MiG-15SB Fagot, 1952
MiG-17A Fresco A, 1952
MiG-17F Fresco-C, 1953
MiG-17AS Fresco (Multi-Role), 1955
MiG-17PF Fresco-D/E, 1956

Messerschmitt Me-262 Ultimate Pack
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13797.0.html

Improved 3d, LODS and weapons loadouts and new slot variant:

Me-262V-3
Me-262A-1a
Me-262A-1aU4
Me-262A-2a
Me262NJ
Me-262HG-II

Credits:
Classfiles, new 3D and testing by Anto
Addtional thanks to Cirx, Sani, GJE52 for parts from Me-262B mod and Knochenlutscher for resources.
Special
thanks to Crazyflak (Hakencruz Fix), Birdman (Hakencrux Fix and LODs)
and Twister (adjustable tailplane) for your contributions to this
version.

Me-262B-1a NachJaeger
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,12278.0.html

By Sani

Ar-234B Nachtjaeger
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1362.0.html

By Slow.

Boeing KB-29P & Republic F-84G ThunderJet
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1880.0.html

By Flakiten

Grumman F9F2 Panther
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,980.0.html

By Flakiten

F-80 A & C ShootingStars
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1056.0.html

By Flatiken (wings, Loadout & Java), Charlie Chap ( wing LOD, Cockpit & reliable engine).



Bf-109 Ultimate Pack v3.1
Features
- Covers entire range of 109s from E to Z (N.B. Jabos and Trops combined into parent slot)
Emil: E-1, E-3, E-4, E-4/B, E-4/N, E-7/B, E-7/Z, E-7/N
Fredrich: F-0, F-1, F-2, F-2/U Galland, F-3, F-4, F-4 1.3ata, F-4/Z

Gustav: G-1, G-2, G-3, G-4, G-5, G-5/AS, G-6, G-6 1.3ata,
G-6 Erla, G-6 Tall Tail, G-6 late, G-6/AS, G-14/AS, G-14, G-10, G-10C3,
G-10 Erla
Kurfurst: K-4, K-4C3, K-6, K-14
Other: Z
- Historically correct weapon loadouts, markings and models
- Historically correct FM and performance on new 109s
- Compatible exclusively with Der Wurstenfuch's Combined Cockpits v4 (not tested as of yet with default HSFX)
- Accurate 3D for all models
- New LOD1 shadows for all
- Opening canopies, which are affect FM when open in flight
- Dynamic and working Trop Filters
- New 'All Holes Solved' Plus mod (for all 109s)

Credits:
3D - JapanCat, Anto, Muas, Ranwers, Huninthesun, Zorin, Maddox:1C, Birdman
Classfiles - Anto, Sani, Monguse, Muas, Huninthesun, Charliechap, SAS~Cirx, Josse, Radar, Wolfighter, Karaya, Danzigzag
Flight Models- Karaya, Anto, Maddox:1C
Textures - Cpt Farrell, Freddy, Shooter, Jester's Ink, Wolfighter, Avala, Anto

Project directed by Anto
Beta testing by SAS Admins and Modders
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14700.0.html

SAS Spitfire Pack - MkI early, Mk I, MkIb, MkIIa, MkIIb & MkVa (v3.0 for 4.10m)

Features:

- All early model Spitfires now in one convenient pack
- New 3D model for Spitfire Mk II
- Sliding canopy, with taxi view
- Non sequential plane in squadron fuselage codes
- Individually adjusted flight models
- Wing cannon jamming on MkIb
- Manually retracting undercarriage on Mk I early

Visit the link for credits and info.
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13798.0.html

SAS Hurricane Pack v2.1 *4.09m & 4.101m*
Features
- Covers entire range of Hurricanes
Mk I: I early with Watts 2-blade prop, Ia 12lbs boost with Rotol prop
Mk II: IIa, IIb with added bomber and VVS loadouts, IIb VVS Field Modded, IIc with bomber and VVS loadouts, IID
Later/Other: Mk IV, Sea Hurricane Mk Ib, Sea Hurricane Mk IIc
- Historically correct weapon loadouts, markings and models
- Historically correct FM and performance, including new FMs for Trop models
- Accurate 3D for all models, including remapped trop filters
- Opening canopies
- Accurate default skins plus a large selection of additional paintschemes included (more to come soon from FriendlyFlyer)

Visit link for Credits and info:
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14699.0.html

Supermarine Seafire F. Mk XV
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13799.0.html

By Anto, Zorin', Birdman, Karaya, Nightshifter , SAS and UP Team for testing

AMT - Spitfire L.F. Mk.XVIe Pack Version 2.1 for 4.101m
Features

* Represents the Spitfire L.F. Mk.XVIe variants with bubbletop
* Sliding Canopy (Do not exceed 250kmh TAS when open)
* New 3D for nose, canopy and fuselage
* Custom Flight Models
* Dynamic Centre of Gravity
* Historically Accurate loadouts
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2772.0.html

By Anto, VH-Rock, Howlin, F22-Raptor-2006, Birdman , Nightshifter.

Griffon Spitfires
SPITXIIearly
SpitfireMkXII
SpitfireMkXIVC
SpitfireMkLFXIVE
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,8702.0.html

By, Zorin, Hawk, Nightshifter, Avala, Josse, Jolly.

Tempest Mk.II
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,7646.0.html

By F22-Raptor-2006, CirX , Ranwers (3D), Flakiten.

Gladiators & Sea Gladiator
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2585.0.html

By Muas , Charlie Chap, Avala.

Fairey Battle MkII
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1119.0.html

By Ranwers, Charlie Chap, Maraz, Cirx.

Tiger Moth
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1824.0.html

By Ranwers, Cirx.

TyphoonMkIB
TyphoonMkIBLate
TempestMkV11Lbs
TempestMkV13Lbs
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1070.0.html

By Ranwers, Josse, Charlie Chap, GilB57, MrJolly.

Miles Magister M14A
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2708.0.html

By RAF_Magpie, RAF_Wolf, Ranwers, Nightshifter, Charlie Chap, No457_Foxtrot, RAF 662'nd CFSG.

SeaFury MkI
SeaFury MkX
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,179.0.html

By Flakiten, Nightshifter, Charlie Chap, Sani.
Fatduck - exporting tool
DrJones - exporting tool
Kumpel - matrix tool

A6M Pack v2011.01.01b
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10774.0.html

This
currently replaces ALL the stock variants with JapanCat's new ones
including New Historical Type99-1 and Type99-2 20mm cannon for the
Imperial Japanese planes that replace the wrong Ho-5s of the Army Air
force.

Project directed by JapanCat
Beta testing by SAS Admins, UltraPack and Modders
SAS Buttons by SAS~CirX, the SAS Team and UltraPack

An original skin base. Special Thanks
Jaypack44

Special Thanks
@KY
Bonjin13gou
A6M2b ZERO21
Mido
Hiyodori

Ki-44 Shoki
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,8711.0.html

By JapanCat.

N1K1 Rex
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,969.0.html

By Ranwers and Cirx.

SAS Bf109 B, C & D Pack
Bf-109B-1
Bf-109B-2
Bf-109C-1
Bf-109D-1
Bf-109D-1Late
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5018.0.html

By Cirx, JapanCat, Birdman, Ala13_ManOWar.

Ju 87 pack
Ju 87D-1
Ju 87D-3 with Jumo 211J
Ju 87D-5 with Jumo 211J
Ju 87D-7
Ju 87D-8
All 87D with WB 81A & B (drei MG-81Z), WB 20 (zwei MG-FF).
For all 87D the aircraft empty weight 3700 kg +.

Ju 87G-1 armor on external models
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,7910.0.html

By Karabas-Barabas, melissa, ZloyPetrushkO1, Nachprod, Wotan.

Fw190 D-11
Fw190 D-13
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1544.0.html

By FatDuck & DrJones, Waggle, Hunin, Flushy, Zorin, MrJolly, Fucida, Cpt Farrel, Sani, Cirx.

Fw190 A-2
Fw190 A-3
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1470.0.html

By Waggle ,Hunin ,Flushy ,Josse, MrJolly ,Zorin ,Fucida ,Howlin ,Jafa ,SAS~CirX ,EnsignRo

Fw190 A-7
Fw190 A-7 Sturm
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,373.0.html

By Josse.


Fw190 A-5 U14 Torpedo Bomber
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1509.0.html

By Blitz, Josse, Zorin, Cirx.

Hs-123
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,524.0.html

By Ranwers, Vtrelut, Chameleon, Cirx.

AVIA S-199
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5228.0.html

By Blitz, Nachprod, Skvorez.

He45C
He51C1
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,7980.0.html
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,7759.0.html

By DREAMK.

Skyraiders
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14170.0.html

By CY6.

P-47B-15
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5704.0.html

By Riken.

Stinson L-5 Sentinel
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2252.0.html

By Flakiten.

T-6 Texan
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,4658.0.html

By CY6 and Beowolff.
SNJ-5
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,4953.0.html

By Beowolff, Checkyersix, GJE52, Sani, Wolfighter, Lefty Hartnett, BravoFxTrt.

F4FM-2 (Replaces Stock)
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3977.0.html

By Beowolff.

P-26 Peashooter
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,638.0.html

By Deutschmark.

PZL-23B
PZL-42
RWD-10
P-11F I.A.R
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3396.0.html
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13721.0.html
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2637.0.html

By Loku.

RWD-8
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1860.0.html

By Ranwers

Morane-Saulnier 502 "Criquet"
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10212.0.html

By Skipper.

CR-32
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,674.0.html

By Ranwers, Sjack, Real Darko, Slow, Spanish Il-2 community a lot of info and encouragement, Frankiek, Alban.

Polikarpov R-5 Flyable
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14131.0.html

By ton414.

MiG-3 16 series
MiG-3 19 series (in the game designated as the UD)
MiG-3 27 series (2xUBS) (in the game designated as 2xUB)
MiG-3 34 series (2xShVAK)
MiG-3 AM-38
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13907.0.html

These also replaces the Stock models as they are more detailed.

By Molva , Ivan750, Ilyshin, KarabasBarabas, deSAD, Epizikl.

U-2 Pack:
U-2NB, nightbomber variant, two seated , dual controls.
U-2UT , trainer version
U-2VS with SHKAS mounted in rear
U-2VS
, standard stock game version (already in your game) but now with
cockpit and gunner position, improved 3d model, improved default skin
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1096.0.html

By guys at Avia Skins.

LaGG3-1 Series
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,541.0.html

By BY-Rydu, Ivan750C6 and Cirx.

Su-26
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2965.0.html

By Molva, Blitz , V.Mihay, Valera, CirX, Ranwers, Wolfighter for a good 3D model of the pilot, Max_theHitman.

I-16 UTI 4
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3494.0.html

By Ilyushin, van750, deSAD and Alge_1.

Yak-7UTI
Yak-7V
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,564.0.html

I-16 Complete Pack
I-16type10WC
I-16type10
I-16type17
I-16type18-BS
I-16type24
I-16type27
I-16type28
I-16type29
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26.0.html

By Lefty & Blitz, Ivan750, Mosca & CirX, Alge1 & Aroman, Loku, Hades, Birdman.

I-15-M22
I-15-M25
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1420.0.html

By Lefty & Blitz.


He-219 UHU
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,15057.0.html

By CY6 and BenitoMusso.

P-38E
P-38F-1-LO
P-38G-5-LO
P-38G-10-LO
P-38G-15-LO
P-38H-5-LO
P-38J-10-LO
P-38J-15-LO
P-38J-25-LO
P-38L-5-LO
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,4528.0.html

By, BBury/Gibbage/Monguse and fixes by Cirx.


Bf-110C-1
Bf-110C-7
Bf-110D-3
Bf-110E-1
Bf-110F-2
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,813.0.html

By, III/JG53>Max Who had the idea for this , Cirx.


Me 410-A
Me 410-B
Me 410-D
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1278.0.html

By Hunin, Jolly, VPMedia, Zeppo. Slow, Zorin, Ranwers, Charlie Chap, Mihoo

BeaufighterMkX
BeaufighterMkI
BeaufighterMkIF
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,996.0.html

By Charlie Chap , Jolly and the first Fm for the X was done by Hunin.
Mk1F nightfighter By SAS~ CirX, fixes by Malone.

Bf 110 G-4 NachtJaeger.
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1034.0.html
By, Magot, Maha, Hellzone, Ranwers, Jolly, Hunnin, Slow, Cirx.

P-38M Night Fighter
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5758.0.html

By, GJE52.

Me 410-D Nachtjager
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3705.0.html

By GJE52, CirX, Hunin, Jolly, VPMedia, Zeppo, Slow, Zorin.

He-111P-2
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,896.0.html

By 13/JG5_Max.

Vickers Wellington
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2737.0.html

By Charlie Chap, CirX, MrJolly, Magot, Ranwers.

Ju-88C-6 Day Fighter
Ju-88C-6NJ NachJaeger
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14025.0.html

By Maraz.

Blenheim MkIVF
A-20 Boston MkIII
A-20 Boston MkIII Strafer
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14096.0.html
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10960.0.html
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13451.0.html

By WTE-Newy.

Mosquito FB MkVI Coastal Command

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,9973.0.html


By, Ranwers, CharlieChap and Cirx.

Mosquito B Mk16
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1108.0.html

By Cirx.

Mosquito TseTse
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,10713.0.html

By Howlin, GJE52, Cirx, HaDeS, Highlander_262, Loku, Birdman, Sani.

Mosquito Night Fighter Mk II
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5349.0.html

By GJE52.

A-20DB-7 Boston MkII, 1940
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1126.0.html

By CharlieChap.

G4M2e Betty (replaces Stock One.)
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3284.0.html

By Sani.

Pe-2 series-32
Pe-2 series-206
Pe-3 field mod
Pe-3bis serial
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,3842.0.html

By Karabas-Barabas.

He-111 H-21
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1111.0.html

By CharlieChap, Zorin, Cirx, Sani.



Avro Lancaster
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,4359.0.html

By Checkyersix, Sani, Messer, CirX, Ranwers, MrJolly, Jones.

Halifax
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1071.0.html

By Ranwers, CharlieChap.

Ju-52/3mg3e
Ju-52/3mg4e
Ju-52/3mg5e
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,1522.0.html

By Ranwers, CharlieChap, DeutchMark, VP Media.



L-5 Sentinel floatplane.
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,9177.0.html

By Flak, Checkyersix , Mad, Wolfighter, Beowolff), Bombs Away.

PBN Nomad & PBY Catalina
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,476.0.html

By Josse, Ranwers, Sani, Wolfighters.

Former AI Planes made flyable:

P-36A-3
P-36A-4
Fi-156
U-2VS
Me-210Ca-1
Me-210Ca-1ZSTR
Hs-129B-2
Hs-129B-3
MS406
MS410
MS-Morko
N1K1-J
N1K1-Ja

A5M4
AR-196A3
B17D
B17E
B17F
B17G
B24J-100-CF
B25C25
B25G1
B25H1
B29
B5N2-KATE
B6N2-JILL
BF-110-C4
BF-110-C4B
BLENHEIM-1
BLENHEIM-4
C-47
DB-3B
DB-3F
DB-3M
DB-3T
FW-189_A-2
FW-200-C3U4
G11
G4M2E_and_MXY-7
Gladiator_Mk1
Gladiator_MkII
H8K1
IL4
Ju-52-3mg
KI-21-I-Sally
KI-21-II-Sally
Ki-46-Otsu
Ki-46-OtsuHei
Ki-46-Recce
L2D
LI2
MACCHI-200
MACCHI-200-7
MACCHI-200-7FB
MBR-2AM34
ME-321
ME-323
Mosquito_MkIV
Neman_R-10
PE8
SB_2M-100A
SB_2M-103
SU_2
TU_2S
U2VS

by PeaceLovinHippy & Lt.Wolf

Later Aircraft Additions:

B29 Silverplate
Spitfire MKI
Spitfire XII
Spitfire XIV’s
Hurricane Mk IID
Mosquito XIV

By, Mr Jolly, Ranwers, Magpie, Zeppo, Vpmedia, Hunin, Fatduck, DrJones, Waggle, Flushy, Zorin, Howlin



CY6 Command and Control addon
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13289.0.html

CY6 Arty Barrage
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13517.0.html

Skip Bomb fix by |ZUTI|
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,12554.0.html



|ZUTI|'s MDS Version 1.2 with multi crew support and many more extra features.
MDS now also incorporates Fireball's CTO, Bomb Bay Doors and Hotkeys addons.

AI Triggers and Gunners Sniper Fix by Lutz.

New Ship Damage Logging feature by WildWillie.

Possible Features in UP 3.0 Final.

Dynamic Weather by Lutz
Realistic visibility for AI towards Sun and through Clouds.



After
almost 1 year of intensive work, data collecting and 1000s of hours
testing i present you the Weapons addon that will be included by default
in next UP. No more unfair performance for specific guns and cannons.
Every
gun/cannon was trimmed not only regarding its actual performance but
also in comparison with the rest guns/cannons in game.

After
several months of testing we found that for some weapons, mainly small
caliber guns and few of the cannons, there was the need to change their
real life data so they could perform realistic and accordingly to the
rest of the weapons.

Here is the methodology we used to achieve this:

A) if the performance of a weapons is lower or higher we tried to trim its penetration ability and explosive radius to achieve realistic performance.
B) If the above method was not enough to achieve this then the next step was to alter its belting to achieve satisfactory results.
C) If the above method was unsatisfactory then we tried to lower or increase the HE ammount of the bullet to achieve historical accuracy.

The characteristics that were not changed are the Rate Of Fire, the Bullets Weight and the Velocity.

Our data were mainly from the Flying Guns of WWII By Emanuel Gustin and Tony Williams, from Williams webpage here: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/
and from other reliable sources on the internet.

Now the testing methodology and our theory of the weapons damage in real life is this:

A) Theory of Weapons lethality in WWII:

Data taken from the Cartridge lethality table in Williams page: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/WW2guneffect.htm

Theory:

We know that historically it took in average 4bullets of a MG151/20 to down a fighter.
The
average Cartridge Damage of a MG151/20 bullet is 151,67. SInce for
bullets a needed to down a fighter plane, we can assume that 606,68 is
the average damage that a fighter can take before he is going down.

Which leads us to the following table:

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/ Fighter
Browning.303	7.7x56R	1	10,25 (2x8.6/4x11)	59,5
MG 17*	7.92x57	1	10	60,988

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/ Fighter
MG 131	13x64B	3	31,67 (27/2x 34)	19,27
Breda-SAFAT	12.7x81SR	3	28,33 (2x27/31)	28,33
Ho-103	12.7x81SR	3	?	?
.50 Browning M2	12.7x99	4,5	46	12,25
12.7mm UB	12.7x108	6	57	10,7
MG 151/15	15x96	13-17	77,8 (61/4x82)	7,84

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/ Fighter
20mm ShVAK	20x99R	11	118,3 (86/19x120)	5,128
Berezin B-20	20x99R	11	118,3 (86/19x120)	5,128
20mm Type 99-1	20x72RB	12	123	4,932
MG-FF	20x80RB	14	136,2 (2x90/89/2x206)	4,454
20mm Ho-5	20x94	10	141,5 (78/127)	5,918
MG 151/20	20x82	16	151,67 (110/109/236)	4
20mm Type 99-2	20x101RB	15	154	3,94
Ho-1 / Ho-2	20x125	18	177	3,43
Hispano II	20x110	20	197,5 (201/194)	3,07
Hispano V	20x110	20	197,5 (201/194)	3,07
VYa-23	23x152B	26	276 (228/2x300)	2,2

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/ Fighter
MK 108	30x90RB	58	580	1,046
MK 103	30x184B	99	990	0,628

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/ Fighter
37mm M4	37x145R	64	645	0,94
NS-37	37x195	106	1060	0,572

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/ Fighter
Ho-301	40mm CL	27	269	2,255

The
above conclusion/theory was made by Emil and it is the most correct
approach we can have based on cartridge destructiveness in game as
things like reliability of weapons are not taken into consideration by
Game's engine.
Althoug this theory looks very valid Gryphon, from the War Birds Of Prey admins made a very logical point:
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Quote from: Gryphon

<blockquote>I've
re-read the nildram reference and think that the above is the best
methodology we are going to get. To explain why IRL it took only 4 hits
from a MG151/20 to down a fighter, consider this: if I was sitting in a
fighter and it got hit by any cannon shells, I'd be out of that fighter
so damn fast all you'd see is a blur! WW2 fighters were notorious for
catching fire or suffering structural failure such that the gyroscopic
forces would prevent the pilot getting out. In game, different story.
Pilots stay on board until the controls dont work, its burning, or
otherwise terminal. So in game we must expect more than 4 hits for a
kill. I think that's even true for the AI we test against - having shot
down hundreds of them in the past few weeks, the AI rarely bails out, so
our kills will take more hits than those the Luftwaffe found. Make
sense?

So what I suggest is we factor that in and raise our total
cartridge power delivered to target from 606 to 1000 (for the Yak-7,
other will vary).
</blockquote>

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That would give us the following hits per kill:

Bullets per Fighter Table

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/Fighter
Browning.303	7.7x56R	1	10,25 (2x8.6/4x11)	97,560
MG 17*	7.92x57	1	10	100,0

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/Fighter
Breda-SAFAT	12.7x81SR	3	28,33 (2x27/31)	35,298
Ho-103	12.7x81SR	3	28,33 (2x27/31)	35,298
MG 131	13x64B	3	31,67 (27/2x 34)	31,576,27
.50 Browning M2	12.7x99	4,5	46	21,739
12.7mm UB	12.7x108	6	57	17,544
MG 151/15	15x96	13-17	77,8 (61/4x82)	12,853

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/Fighter
20mm Ho-5	20x94	10	102,5 (78/127)	9,756
20mm ShVAK	20x99R	11	111,5 (86/3x120)	8,969
Berezin B-20	20x99R	11	120	8,453
20mm Type 99-1	20x72RB	12	123	8,13
MG-FF	20x80RB	14	136,2 (2x90/89/2x206)	7,342
20mm Type 99-2	20x101RB	15	154	6,494
MG 151/20	20x82	16	185,4 (110/109/3x236)	5,394
Ho-1 / Ho-2	20x125	18	177	5,65
Hispano II	20x110	20	197,5 (201/194)	5,063
Hispano V	20x110	20	197,5 (201/194)	5,063
VYa-23	23x152B	26	276 (228/2x300)	3,623

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/Fighter
MK 108	30x90RB	58	580	1,72
MK 103	30x184B	99	990	1,001

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/Fighter
37mm M4	37x145R	64	645	1,55
NS-37	37x195	106	1060	0,943

Weapon	Dimension	Cartridge Power	Cartridge Damage	Bullets/Fighter
Ho-301	40mm CL	27	269	3,717

(All tables data calculated by Emil)

For
the ShKAS and a couple of other small caliber guns i've took their
muzzle energy and i calculated their destructiveness accordingly sine
they used a known belting. Data for few small caliber guns like the
SvAKS taken from here:

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/Historic%20MGs.htm

B) Testing:

We tested the required bullets to take down a fighter as following:

I
chose the Yak-1 as fighter because its Damage Model is one of the most
adequate in game, it doesn't get fire quick, it does not have any "bugs"
in its Damage Model, and it is a light fighter as it should.

Then Emil made a simple Co-operation mission in Bessarabia map having 20 Empty-Transit Rookie Yak-1 as targets.

Our test-planes have unlimited ammo and we shoot them until one of the following conditions occured:

A) Caught fire and explode
B) Lost controls and got into spiral dive or un-recovered dive
C) Pilot killed
D) Plane's wing or fuselage broke
E) Pilot bailed out

When
all the 20 planes got shot down, we exit the co-op mission and then we
calculated the hit bullets with the ammount of the planes, 20 in this
case. The number that comes out is the Average bullets number for each
plane.

All the guns in game tested and trimmed by using this method.
Here is an example of the co-op missions stats: (you have to start a Server and host a co-op being the only player).

MG131 13mm
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Name: StG77_HaDeS
Score: 2000
State: In Flight
Enemy Aircraft Kill: 20
Enemy Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Enemy Tank Kill: 0
Enemy Car Kill: 0
Enemy Artillery Kill: 0
Enemy AAA Kill: 0
Enemy Wagon Kill: 0
Enemy Ship Kill: 0
Friend Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Tank Kill: 0
Friend Car Kill: 0
Friend Artillery Kill: 0
Friend AAA Kill: 0
Friend Wagon Kill: 0
Friend Ship Kill: 0
Fire Bullets: 6420
Hit Bullets: 668
Hit Air Bullets: 654
Fire Roskets: 0
Hit Roskets: 0
Fire Bombs: 0
Hit Bombs: 0
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32.7

Ho-103 12mm
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Name: StG77_HaDeS
Score: 2000
State: In Flight
Enemy Aircraft Kill: 20
Enemy Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Enemy Tank Kill: 0
Enemy Car Kill: 0
Enemy Artillery Kill: 0
Enemy AAA Kill: 0
Enemy Wagon Kill: 0
Enemy Ship Kill: 0
Friend Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Tank Kill: 0
Friend Car Kill: 0
Friend Artillery Kill: 0
Friend AAA Kill: 0
Friend Wagon Kill: 0
Friend Ship Kill: 0
Fire Bullets: 4458
Hit Bullets: 734
Hit Air Bullets: 734
Fire Roskets: 0
Hit Roskets: 0
Fire Bombs: 0
Hit Bombs: 0
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36.7

BredaSAFAT 12mm
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Name: StG77_HaDeS
Score: 2000
State: In Flight
Enemy Aircraft Kill: 20
Enemy Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Enemy Tank Kill: 0
Enemy Car Kill: 0
Enemy Artillery Kill: 0
Enemy AAA Kill: 0
Enemy Wagon Kill: 0
Enemy Ship Kill: 0
Friend Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Tank Kill: 0
Friend Car Kill: 0
Friend Artillery Kill: 0
Friend AAA Kill: 0
Friend Wagon Kill: 0
Friend Ship Kill: 0
Fire Bullets: 5304
Hit Bullets: 738
Hit Air Bullets: 738
Fire Roskets: 0
Hit Roskets: 0
Fire Bombs: 0
Hit Bombs: 0
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36.9

UBs 12mm
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Name: StG77_HaDeS
Score: 2000
State: In Flight
Enemy Aircraft Kill: 20
Enemy Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Enemy Tank Kill: 0
Enemy Car Kill: 0
Enemy Artillery Kill: 0
Enemy AAA Kill: 0
Enemy Wagon Kill: 0
Enemy Ship Kill: 0
Friend Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Tank Kill: 0
Friend Car Kill: 0
Friend Artillery Kill: 0
Friend AAA Kill: 0
Friend Wagon Kill: 0
Friend Ship Kill: 0
Fire Bullets: 4098
Hit Bullets: 357
Hit Air Bullets: 357
Fire Roskets: 0
Hit Roskets: 0
Fire Bombs: 0
Hit Bombs: 0
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17.85

Browning 12mm
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Name: StG77_HaDeS
Score: 2000
State: In Flight
Enemy Aircraft Kill: 20
Enemy Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Enemy Tank Kill: 0
Enemy Car Kill: 0
Enemy Artillery Kill: 0
Enemy AAA Kill: 0
Enemy Wagon Kill: 0
Enemy Ship Kill: 0
Friend Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Static Aircraft Kill: 0
Friend Tank Kill: 0
Friend Car Kill: 0
Friend Artillery Kill: 0
Friend AAA Kill: 0
Friend Wagon Kill: 0
Friend Ship Kill: 0
Fire Bullets: 5028
Hit Bullets: 476
Hit Air Bullets: 476
Fire Roskets: 0
Hit Roskets: 0
Fire Bombs: 0
Hit Bombs: 0
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23.8

The
numbers below each report are the Average bullets number to bring a
plane down with the tested weapon by dividing the total ammount of hit
bullets with the number of the downed fighters (20).

Moreover 2
New types of cannons were created, the Type99-1 and Type99-2 for the
Imperial Japanes navy fighters to replace the wrong Ho-5 that Il2 was
using until now which was the cannon of the Army air force.
As my friend Stratodog said: "Yamamoto would be furious about this"

This
is the first time that Every gun/cannon is trimmed in game with
relation not only the historical performance but the relativenes with
the other weapons as well

Java Implementation:
StG77_HaDeS

Research:
Emil, StG77_HaDeS, Stratodog, Gryphon, Wimbly, Iain, AJD-NZ.

Calculations:
Emil, StG77_HaDeS, Gryphon.

Testing:
Gryphon, Emil, StG77_HaDeS, Iain, Wimbly, AJD-NZ, Stratodog, WildWille.

*
For
the MG-17 the calculations did not take into consideration the fact
that the Germans used a mix of Ball, Incendiary and Explosive bullets
combined. Thus i have revised their Damage to around ~86 bullets per
fighter.



To Be Continued Tomorrow (Dead Tired)....

Merci Yamato =D vivement que ca sort

F-86A-5 Sabre, 1949
F-86E-10 Sabre, 1952
F-86F-25 Sabre, 1953
F-86F-25 Sabre (6-3 Wing), 1953
F-86F-30 Sabre, 1953
F-86F-40 Sabre, 1954
F-86K Sabre Dog, 1955
CA-27 Sabre Mk31, 1954CA-27 Sabre Mk32, 1955
FJ-3M Fury, 1956
MiG-15(bis), 1950
MiG-15(bis), 195
MiG-15SB Fagot, 1952
MiG-17A Fresco A, 1952
MiG-17F Fresco-C, 1953
MiG-17AS Fresco (Multi-Role), 1955
MiG-17PF Fresco-D/E, 1956

ça! ça fais plaisir!!

^^ surtout pour vous